Noho, noho palena ʻole ma Kelemania a me ke kamaʻāina Kelemania..!!

Welina mai i ka ALMANCAX FORUMS. Hiki iā ʻoe ke loaʻa nā ʻike a pau āu e ʻimi nei no KELEMANIA a me ka ʻōlelo Kelemānia ma kā mākou mau forum.

- 14 ʻOkakopa 2011: 00:43
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Kākau ʻia kēia mau kumuhana ma lalo o nā poʻo poʻo kumuhana like ʻole a nalo ia i kēlā me kēia manawa. Ua hoʻāʻo wau e ʻohi a makemake wau e hoʻoponopono ma lalo o kēia poʻo. Inā he mau hoaaloha lākou, e pōmaikaʻi lākou mai ia mea, a naʻu e hoʻohui i kaʻu inoa. ʻāpana.

Visum - Visa: ʻO ia ke kuleana i hāʻawi ʻia e nā consulates no ka lōʻihi o 3 mau mahina.

Aufenthaltserlaubnis - Noho Pono: ʻO ia ke kuleana noho manawaleʻa i hāʻawi ʻia e ke Keʻena ʻAmelika ma Kelemānia.

Unbefristet, Niderlassungserlaubnis - Kau palena ʻole: Unbefristet ma mua, ʻike ʻia ʻo Niderlassungserlaubnis, nā kuleana noho palena ʻole.

ʻO Deutsche Staatsangehörigkeit, Kelemania Kelemania no ka poʻe makemake i ka pou

I kēia manawa, ua loaʻa iā ʻoe kāu visa ma o ka hui hou ʻana o ka ʻohana a ua hiki mai ʻoe i Kelemania, ʻo ka mea mua āu e hana ai, ʻo ka hele ʻana i ke keʻena o nā haole i ka hikiwawe, ʻoiai inā loaʻa iā ʻoe ka manawa, a noi no kahi noho - Aufenthaltserlaubnis.

..Inā he kama'āina Kelemānia kāu kāne, e loaʻa mua iā ʻoe kahi palapala noho no 1 a i ʻole 2 mau makahiki, a laila no 1 a i ʻole 2 mau makahiki inā hoʻonui ʻoe. Ke hoʻopau ʻoe i nā makahiki 3 i ka huina, loaʻa iā ʻoe ke kuleana e noi no ka Visa ʻole - Niederlassungserlaubnis. Hoʻoholo ʻia kēia e ka paukū 28 o ka ʻatikala 2 o ke Kānāwai Noho. Ke hoʻohui nei au i ka loulou ma lalo nei, hiki i ka poʻe makemake ke komo a heluhelu i ka ʻōlelo Kelemānia mai laila..

Link: https://www.juraforum.de/gesetze/aufenthg/28-familiennachzug-zu-deutschen

..inā he kamaaina Tureke kāu kāne, e loaʻa iā ʻoe kahi noho no 1 a i ʻole 2 mau makahiki, me ka lōʻihi e like me ke kūlanakauhale, a hiki i kou hoʻopau ʻana i kēia mau makahiki 5. Ma ka hopena o ka makahiki 5, hiki iā ʻoe ke noi no he Visa palena ʻole - Niederlassungserlaubnis, inā ʻoe e hoʻokō i nā kūlana ʻē aʻe, no ka laʻana 60 mahina. E like me ka uku ʻana i ka waihona hoʻomaha, ʻo ia hoʻi, ke hoʻolimalima ʻia. o ke Kanawai Kau. Hiki iā ʻoe ke heluhelu i nā kūlana ʻē aʻe mai ka loulou.

Link: https://www.juraforum.de/gesetze/aufenthg/9-niederlassungserlaubnis

- ʻOiaʻiʻo, ʻoiai inā he Kelemania a Turkish paha kāu kāne, ʻo kekahi o nā kumu kumu pono ʻoe e hele i nā papa hoʻohui a kūleʻa ma mua o ka visa palena ʻole -

E hele i ke kamaʻāina Kelemania:

Hoʻonohonoho pinepine ʻia ka kuleana o ka naturalization e nā ʻatikala 8, 9 a me 10 o ke Kānāwai Citizenship. No laila, ʻatikala ka paukū 8 i nā kuleana ākea, ka ʻatikala 9 e hoʻoponopono ai i nā kuleana o ka poʻe i male i ka wahine Kelemania a ʻo ka ʻatikala 10 e hoʻoponopono i nā kuleana o nā haole i koe, ʻo ia ka poʻe i male ʻole a i noho paha ma Kelemania i kekahi ʻano.

.. No laila, nā ʻatikala 8 a me 9 e hoʻoponopono i nā kuleana o nā mea i lawe ʻia. ʻAʻole kākau kēia mau ʻatikala i kekahi mea e pili pono ana i ka makahiki. Akā i ka hana, ua male ʻoe i kahi wahine Kelemania a hele i Kelemania i ka hopena o ka makahiki 5. He kuleana kou e noi no ke kamaʻāina Kelemania inā hoʻokō ʻoe i nā ʻano ʻē aʻe. nā kūlana ʻē aʻe, e like me ka ʻike ʻana i ka ʻōlelo Kelemania, ke lawe nei i ka hōʻoia kamaʻāina, ka loaʻa ʻana o ka ʻike pili e pili ana iā Kelemania, ʻaʻole loaʻa ka kōkua kaiāulu a me nā mea ʻē aʻe ..

Paukū 8 Loulou: https://norm.bverwg.de/jur.php?rustag,8
Paukū 9 Loulou: https://norm.bverwg.de/jur.php?rustag,9

ʻO ka palapala noi e pili ana i ka lōʻihi ma kēia Loulou: https://www.duesseldorf.de/buergerinfo/33/03/31eb02.shtml

Hoʻoponopono ka ʻatikala 10 i ke kuleana e loaʻa ai ke kamaʻāina Kelemania no nā kamaʻāina Turkish. No laila, ʻo kekahi o nā kūlana e noho i Kelemania no 8 mau makahiki a hoʻokō i nā ʻano ʻē aʻe i hoʻokō ʻia e ka poʻe i male i ka wahine male ma luna .. Hoʻohui wau i ka loulou ma lalo o kēia kānāwai ..

Paukū 10 Loulou: https://norm.bverwg.de/jur.php?rustag,10

Eia hou, hiki iā ʻoe ke ʻike i nā Kānāwai Noho a pau ma kēia Loulou:

https://www.jusline.de/Aufenthaltsgesetz_%28AufenthG%29_Langversion

Eia nā kānāwai e pili ana i ke kamaʻāina.

https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/rustag/BJNR005830913

hiki iā ʻoe ke loaʻa.

Inā he mau nīnau kāu, hiki iā ʻoe ke nīnau iā lākou ma aneʻi. Lana koʻu manaʻo ua kōkua ia i nā hoa aloha i makemake i ke kumuhana ..

- 14 ʻOkakopa 2011: 09:02
EL-TURCO
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hoʻopōmaikaʻi i kou mau lima ..
- 14 ʻOkakopa 2011: 10:26
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hoʻopōmaikaʻi i kou mau lima ..

Mahalo, lana koʻu manaʻo ʻaʻole wau e hōʻike i nā hanana i kahi ala hewa ʻole .. no laila ua hāʻawi wau i nā loulou o nā makahiki .. ka poʻe e makemake e nānā mai laila no ka hōʻoiaʻiʻo ʻana o ka papa ..
- 14 ʻOkakopa 2011: 11:12
tugce_doerj mea
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ke olakino maikaʻi loa i ka baybars lima. ʻO kaʻu nīnau, hana like paha kēia no kēlā me kēia mokuʻāina? No ka mea aia kekahi kamaʻāina Kelemania i koʻu wahi noho a noho ʻo ia ma aneʻi no 8 mau makahiki a pono e uku ʻauhau i 5 mau makahiki. ua lilo ka wahine i kamaʻāina Kelemania ma hope o ka hana ʻana i kēia. no Vietnam ka wahine, ʻaʻole ʻo Tureke. paha he noi ʻokoʻa iā lākou?
- 14 ʻOkakopa 2011: 11:17
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ʻO Tugce, ke heluhelu wau i ka hoʻoholo, manaʻo wau e like ia ma nā wahi āpau, kahi mea i male i ke kamaʻāina Kelemania e noho i Kelemania no 3 mau makahiki a pono e male ʻia i kahi kamaʻāina Kelemania i 2 mau makahiki, i ka huina, ma hope o 5 mau makahiki, ka hānau ʻia ke kuleana kupa o Kelemania. https://www.duesseldorf.de/buergerinfo/33/03/31eb02.shtml ʻ sayslelo ia e like me kaʻu e ʻōlelo nei. A he kūpono ka lula 8 makahiki no nā kamaʻāina Tureke.
- 14 ʻOkakopa 2011: 12:10
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ke olakino maikaʻi loa i ka baybars lima. ʻO kaʻu nīnau, hana like paha kēia no kēlā me kēia mokuʻāina? No ka mea aia kekahi kamaʻāina Kelemania i koʻu wahi noho a noho ʻo ia ma aneʻi no 8 mau makahiki a pono e uku ʻauhau i 5 mau makahiki. ua lilo ka wahine i kamaʻāina Kelemania ma hope o ka hana ʻana i kēia. no Vietnam ka wahine, ʻaʻole ʻo Tureke. paha he noi ʻokoʻa iā lākou?

ʻO ka maʻamau, ʻo ka mea like no nā haole āpau i ke kānāwai kamaʻāina, i kākau ʻia ma luna ma ka pae. ʻAʻole ʻo ia e ʻōlelo i kāna ʻoihana i kēia makahiki kekahi. Ua hala pū ka hanana 5 makahiki i ka ʻatikala 8 ..
- I kēia manawa, ke hala ʻole ka makahiki, pehea ka ʻokoʻa o nā kuleana kupa o ka poʻe me nā kāne Kelemania? He ʻokoʻa ia i ka hana. Ua hāʻawi wau i kahi laʻana o kēia mai ke kaona ʻo Düsseldorf. Ua haʻi ka ʻaoʻao kūhelu o ke kaona i nā makahiki 5.
- 14 ʻOkakopa 2011: 13:01
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ʻOiai ʻaʻole ʻo ia i hāʻawi i mau makahiki i ka hoʻoholo ʻana, ʻokoʻa paha ia ma nā wahi āpau. Ua haʻi ka wahine iaʻu ma kahi o 8 mau makahiki. a me 5 makahiki ʻauhau.

Ua loaʻa iaʻu kahi visa no 3 makahiki no ka hui hou ʻana o ka ʻohana. ʻOkoʻa kēia mau surah ma nā wahi ʻē aʻe no ka wahine o kahi kamaʻāina Kelemania. ʻOkoʻa nā wahi a pau, ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu, no laila ua hala. Aia kekahi moku'āina, mālama kēlā me kēia kanaka i kahi kauoha e like me ko lākou makemake. ʻAʻole hiki i kekahi ke hāʻawi i ka pane maopopo i kekahi no ka mea ʻaʻole pili ke kānāwai o kekahi mokuʻāina i kekahi mokuʻāina. :policy:
- 14 ʻOkakopa 2011: 13:06
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ʻOiai ʻaʻole ʻo ia i hāʻawi i mau makahiki i ka hoʻoholo ʻana, ʻokoʻa paha ia ma nā wahi āpau. Ua haʻi ka wahine iaʻu ma kahi o 8 mau makahiki. a me 5 makahiki ʻauhau.

Ua loaʻa iaʻu kahi visa no 3 makahiki no ka hui hou ʻana o ka ʻohana. ʻOkoʻa kēia mau surah ma nā wahi ʻē aʻe no ka wahine o kahi kamaʻāina Kelemania. ʻOkoʻa nā wahi a pau, ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu, no laila ua hala. Aia kekahi moku'āina, mālama kēlā me kēia kanaka i kahi kauoha e like me ko lākou makemake. ʻAʻole hiki i kekahi ke hāʻawi i ka pane maopopo i kekahi no ka mea ʻaʻole pili ke kānāwai o kekahi mokuʻāina i kekahi mokuʻāina. :policy:

ʻaʻole, nānā, ʻaʻole ma laila, i kēia manawa ʻaʻole ʻokoʻa nā kānāwai mai ka mokuʻāina a i ka mokuʻāina, aia wale nō nā ʻokoʻa i nā mea liʻiliʻi, aia nā ʻokoʻa i nā mokuʻāina e pili ana iā lākou iho .. no ka mea ʻo nā mea e like me nā kuleana noho a me nā kamaʻāina e pili ana i ka Kelemania holoʻokoʻa. .. ʻaʻohe ʻokoʻa kānāwai i kēia mau mea nui .. no laila hoʻokahi kānāwai noho hoʻokahi wale nō kānāwai kupa.

Aia ʻoe i kēia manawa, ʻōlelo ʻoe he hiʻohiʻona kāu i mua oʻu o ka papa .. ʻo nā kuleana kamaʻāina wale nō o ka mea i male ʻia i kēia wahine Kelemania i hoʻokuʻu hou ʻia i ka 2005 .. Malia paha ua hala ka mea āu i ʻōlelo ai i ke kamaʻāina Kelemania. i ka wā i hala, e like me ke kānāwai hou, ʻaʻole ʻoe i pili i ka makahiki 10 i kākau ʻia ma ka ʻatikala 8. Ua kākau akāka ʻia kēia ma ka ʻatikala 9, ʻatikala 9 e ʻōlelo ana ka mea nāna e hoʻokō i nā koina o ka ʻatikala 8 a he kuleana ko 9 e hoʻoholo i ke kamaʻāina Kelemania .. Ua kākau ʻia ma ka ʻaoʻao o ka pūnaewele kūhelu ma Dusseldorf, a ua kākau ʻia ma nā ʻaoʻao he nui a ua koho wau iā ia ..
- 14 ʻOkakopa 2011: 13:07
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ʻAe, ʻoiaʻiʻo, ʻoi aku ka ʻelemakule o kēlā wahine, manaʻo wau ua loaʻa iā ia ka visa ma mua o 2005, nānā, ʻaʻole wau i nīnau i ka wahine no ia mea. A laila he mea maʻamau. ʻAe :)
- 14 ʻOkakopa 2011: 13:13
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ʻAe, ʻoiaʻiʻo, ʻoi aku ka ʻelemakule o kēlā wahine, manaʻo wau ua loaʻa iā ia ka visa ma mua o 2005, nānā, ʻaʻole wau i nīnau i ka wahine no ia mea. A laila he mea maʻamau. ʻAe :)

E nānā i kēia ʻatikala mai Munich mai; No ka poʻe i lawe i kahi hana, e hāʻawi ʻia iā lākou kahi manawa i kākau maopopo ʻia o ka manawa;

Make Ermessenseinbürgerung (§ § 8, 9 StAG)
ʻO Die Ermessenseinbürgerung gilt für bestimmte Ausländergruppen wie zB Ehegatten von
ʻO Deutschen, anerkannte Flüchtlinge, ehemalige deutsche Staatsangehörige a pēlā aku, make unter
erleichterten Voraussetzungen (= Kürzeren Aufenthaltszeiten) eingeburgert werden können.
ʻO Für Ehegatten von Deutschen gilt in der Regel eine Wartezeit von drei, für anerkannte
Flüchtlinge von sechs Jahren.
https://www.auslaenderbeirat-muenchen.de/publi/staatsang.pdf

ʻO Dortmund, ua ʻōlelo ʻo Bochum i ka mea like ma nā ʻaoʻao o kēlā mau wahi .. ʻAʻole au e hoʻohui iā lākou no kēia maʻalahi no laila ʻaʻole lōʻihi ke kumuhana ma ka hopena o ka makahiki ..
- 14 ʻOkakopa 2011: 18:35
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Maopopo iaʻu. Eia nō naʻe, he mau makahiki hou aʻe kā mākou e nānā ai i kēlā mau hana, e loli hou ana ia i 50 mau manawa:haha:
- 14 ʻOkakopa 2011: 20:24
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Maopopo iaʻu. Eia nō naʻe, he mau makahiki hou aʻe kā mākou e nānā ai i kēlā mau hana, e loli hou ana ia i 50 mau manawa:haha:

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He manaʻo kou e lilo i kamaʻāina Kelemania?
- 14 ʻOkakopa 2011: 21:01
EL-TURCO
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Manaʻo wau ʻaʻole ʻoluʻolu ke kamaʻāina Kelemania e like me ma mua.
-ʻO ka mea nui loa e noʻonoʻo ai, ʻo ka wā e lilo ai kekahi kanaka me kahi ʻano hana i kamaʻāina Kelemania, make nā palapala hōʻoia SSK-Bağkur. ʻAe, nā kānaka, ua kapa lākou i ka makahiki hoʻomaha ma Turkey makahiki hoʻomaha i ka lua kupapaʻu, ʻaʻohe o lākou manaʻo ʻO ka poʻe ma ʻaneʻi, ʻaʻole i loko o ka lua kupapaʻu, akā i ka wā maloʻo nā iwi (ʻO kēlā me kēia mea i ʻike iki e pili ana i ka makahiki awelika o Tureke e ʻae mai iaʻu! ʻAʻole hiki iā mākou ke ola 85-90 e like me nā Kelemania….
Ua haʻi aku ʻoe i ka wahine o 65, ua alohi ʻo ia i kona alo - ua make kā mākou pūhaka 55-60s, ua hala wau, ʻaʻole ia e hāpai hohonu (generalization)
– 2. Ka pono e loaa ka waiwai ma Tureke 8. Ina aole au i kuhihewa, a hiki i ka 5 makahiki aku nei, aole hiki i na haole ke loaa ka waiwai ma Tureke, ua oki ke kuai hale - ua hooholoia paha he kanawai hou, aole au i ike. nui e pili ana ia mea.
- Aia kekahi ʻaoʻao o kēia ao, makemake ka poʻe e kanu ʻia i kahi i hānau ʻia ai (ma ka liʻiliʻi loa iaʻu).
- ʻOiai inā loaʻa iaʻu nā palapala passport 4 Kelemania, ʻaʻole pono wau i kahi passport e ʻike ʻia mai kahi kaukani kilomita mai ka mamao aku he Turk wau...
–Aole ino loa ka holo ana o ke kaaahi, ina e laki kakou, aole ino ke noho kau wela iloko o ke kaaahi i ka makahiki 50-60. E hele hou mai anei kaua, e kuai au i kona makuahine ia ke ao nei...
koʻu manaʻo.
- 14 ʻOkakopa 2011: 21:13
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Manaʻo wau ʻaʻole ʻoluʻolu ke kamaʻāina Kelemania e like me ma mua.
-ʻO ka mea nui loa e noʻonoʻo ai, ʻo ka wā e lilo ai kekahi kanaka me kahi ʻano hana i kamaʻāina Kelemania, make nā palapala hōʻoia SSK-Bağkur. ʻAe, nā kānaka, ua kapa lākou i ka makahiki hoʻomaha ma Turkey makahiki hoʻomaha i ka lua kupapaʻu, ʻaʻohe o lākou manaʻo ʻO ka poʻe ma ʻaneʻi, ʻaʻole i loko o ka lua kupapaʻu, akā i ka wā maloʻo nā iwi (ʻO kēlā me kēia mea i ʻike iki e pili ana i ka makahiki awelika o Tureke e ʻae mai iaʻu! ʻAʻole hiki iā mākou ke ola 85-90 e like me nā Kelemania….
Ua haʻi aku ʻoe i ka wahine o 65, ua alohi ʻo ia i kona alo - ua make kā mākou pūhaka 55-60s, ua hala wau, ʻaʻole ia e hāpai hohonu (generalization)
– 2. Ka pono e loaa ka waiwai ma Tureke 8. Ina aole au i kuhihewa, a hiki i ka 5 makahiki aku nei, aole hiki i na haole ke loaa ka waiwai ma Tureke, ua oki ke kuai hale - ua hooholoia paha he kanawai hou, aole au i ike. nui e pili ana ia mea.
- Aia kekahi ʻaoʻao o kēia ao, makemake ka poʻe e kanu ʻia i kahi i hānau ʻia ai (ma ka liʻiliʻi loa iaʻu).
- ʻOiai inā loaʻa iaʻu nā palapala passport 4 Kelemania, ʻaʻole pono wau i kahi passport e ʻike ʻia mai kahi kaukani kilomita mai ka mamao aku he Turk wau...
–Aole ino loa ka holo ana o ke kaaahi, ina e laki kakou, aole ino ke noho kau wela iloko o ke kaaahi i ka makahiki 50-60. E hele hou mai anei kaua, e kuai au i kona makuahine ia ke ao nei...
koʻu manaʻo.

– Ua maopopo anei ka pau ana o keia mau manawa SSK? No ka laʻana, haʻi mai kekahi hoahānau oʻu, he loio, hiki iā ʻoe ke helu i ka manawa āu i hana ai ma Kelemania i Turkey.
- ʻAʻole i loaʻa i kēia mau haole ke kuleana e loaʻa ka waiwai ma Turkey a hiki i kēia manawa, e like me kāu i ʻōlelo ai, akā i loko o ke ʻano o nā kānāwai hoʻohui EU, ua hoʻololi lākou i kēia. e hoʻololi pū kekahi. ʻAʻole maopopo iaʻu ka mea a lākou i hana ai, akā hiki iā lākou ke loaʻa i ka waiwai me ka ʻole o ka hoʻopili pololei ʻana i kahi hui. ʻOiaʻiʻo, e ʻike lākou i ka pono.

- E like me kāu i ʻōlelo ai, aia ka ʻaoʻao ʻē aʻe o kēia ao, akā pono mākou e noʻonoʻo iā ia mai kēia ʻano, he nui nā hoa a me nā lua kupapaʻu ʻo Akinci ma ka honua i kanu ʻole ʻia ma ko lākou ʻāina ponoʻī. Heluhelu mua ʻia he mau lua kupapaʻu i loko o ka puʻuwai o ʻEulopa a i waenakonu o Kelemania.

. Ma waho o nā kūlana komohana āu i ʻōlelo ai, noʻonoʻo pū wau e pili ana .. Inā noho lōʻihi nā Tureke e noho ana i Kelemānia no Kelemānia, pono lākou āpau he kamaʻāina Kelemania .. I ka laina me kona ʻoluʻolu a i ʻole nā pilikia .. E hana i kahi keʻena no ka hiki ke koho balota .. ʻOiaʻiʻo, ʻākoakoa mākou ma lalo o hoʻokahi kaupaku ma Kelemania. Pehea maoli ia no kā mākou e hana ai i nā hana, akā ma kahi o 500.000 mau Armenians ma Palani i ʻoi aku ma kahi o 2 miliona mau Tureke e noho ana i Kelemania e hoʻopau ʻia e ka pāremana Kelemania

ʻOiaʻiʻo, pololei a hema mākou ma waena o mākou. ʻO Alawi Sunni, ʻaʻole haipule. ʻaʻole paha .. he mea ʻē aʻe ia i loko o kā mākou bölündügü ka nui o kā mākou lili ponoʻī i ka neʻe lehulehu, kahi o nā pilikia nui e pono ai asmamiz .. e like me ka liʻiliʻi ma aneʻi e noʻonoʻo ai ʻoe i ko Turkey a me ko ka lāhui makemake i ka lobbying bi search pono i loko, akā. inā hana ʻia kahi noiʻi i kēia lā. E komo anei ʻo Turkey i loko o ka ʻuniona Europa .. ʻaʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke komo i ke ʻaoʻao o ka cog o Turkey ma ʻEulopa e hoʻohana ai i nā koho.
- 14 ʻOkakopa 2011: 21:44
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abu bass a hiki i ka hopena ke hiki mai i haklisin SSK manawa i hōʻuluʻulu hou kahi hui, akā ʻike maopopo wau i nā ʻike o ke kanikau i ka wā a ʻaʻole wau e manaʻo aia ma laila ma hope o kaʻu makahiki 23 i Turkey i hana ʻole i kahi inikua i kekahi lā ʻoiai ʻo ka uku o nā makana i hana ai no laila ʻo ke ola kulanui i pili i ka ʻoihana i hoʻopaʻa ʻia ʻaʻole ia he manawa i puka mua mai ke kula. Kelemānia pololei e noi ana i nā kamaʻāina i kēia manawa no ke aha ʻo wau My gecmeyim.avantaj ke kamaʻāina o ka loaʻa ʻana o ka ʻike hou aʻe a me nā kuleana koho balota e like me ka ʻae ʻana i ka pono e hōʻalo i ka mālama ʻia ʻana e like me ka malihini i loko o kahi yasya ka oluyor.s bulgaria hopohopo pū kekahi kanaka kamaʻāina turk i hoʻopaʻa ʻia ma nā puka o ka poʻe a laila e pili ana i ke kuleana e loaʻa ai iā mākou āpau ma mua o ka noho ʻana o ka lāhui Tureke bulunduğu e noi ʻia ma ka kāleka polū no ka mea ʻike mākou i kahi ʻōnaehana mākou āpau loa e hana i ka mea yaradig e pili ana i nā kullanilams gerektiğni a me ka blue kartd e hoʻopuka nei i nā kānāwai hou āpau i loaʻa iā lākou ma Turkey i ke komo ʻana o ka lauoho balota.kūʻai nā huahana gerceklestirebilcek waiwai kūʻai i ka loaʻa ʻana o ia mau noi i nā kāleka polū yapiliyor..b kānāwai i hoʻonui ʻia e olcak ʻoi aku ka ikaika a me ka sunulcak ma ke ʻano he koho i ko Turkish-hānau Kelemania kamaʻāina iaʻu kou kanatind i kēlā me kēia turk kamaʻāina e noho kupa i gecmeli .. Ua loaʻa i kahi dusnuy ka ulia ola turkiyede turkiyede i loaʻa he mau kaukani turkish mau kamaʻāina e noho ana ma alanyadan manaʻo wau ua lawe lākou i ka nohona kamaʻāina iā mākou mai nā ʻaoʻao āpau ..

– Ua maopopo anei ka pau ana o keia mau manawa SSK? Eia kekahi laʻana, haʻi mai koʻu ʻohana, he loio, hiki iā ʻoe ke helu i ka manawa āu i hana ai ma Kelemānia ma Turkey.
- ʻAʻole i loaʻa i kēia poʻe haole ke kuleana e loaʻa ka waiwai ma Turkey a hiki i kēia manawa, e like me kāu i ʻōlelo ai, akā i loko o ke ʻano o nā kānāwai hoʻohui EU, ua hoʻololi lākou i kēia. e hoʻololi pū kekahi. ʻAʻole maopopo iaʻu ka mea a lākou i hana ai, akā hiki iā lākou ke loaʻa ka waiwai me ka ʻole o ka hoʻopili pololei ʻana i kahi hui. ʻOiaʻiʻo, e ʻike lākou i ka pono.

- E like me kāu i ʻōlelo ai, aia ka ʻaoʻao ʻē aʻe o kēia ao, akā pono mākou e noʻonoʻo e pili ana iā ia mai kēia manaʻo, he nui nā hoa a me nā lua kupapaʻu ʻo Akinci i ka honua i kanu ʻole ʻia ma ko lākou ʻāina ponoʻī. Heluhelu mai aia nā lua kupapaʻu i loko o ka puʻuwai o ʻEulopa, ʻoiai i waenakonu o Kelemania.

. Ma waho o nā kūlana komohana āu i ʻōlelo ai, noʻonoʻo pū wau e pili ana. Inā noho lōʻihi nā Tureke ma Kelemania i Kelemania, pono lākou a pau ke kamaʻāina Kelemania .. Ma muli o ka maʻalahi a paʻakikī paha .. E hana i kahi lumi no ka hiki ke koho .. ʻOiaʻiʻo, ko mākou hale He mea kūpono ia no mākou e ʻākoakoa a hoʻokō i nā hana lobbying ma Kelemania, akā ma kahi o 500.000 Armenians ma Palani e loaʻa i ka palemaka Kelemania ma mua o 2 miliona mau Tureke e noho ana i Kelemania e hana i nā mea e hiki ai iā lākou ke hana no sarkozy .. ʻO kēia ke ala e koho balota ai i ka mua. ..

ʻOiaʻiʻo, pololei a hema mākou ma waena o mākou. ʻO Alawi Sunni, ʻaʻole haipule. ʻaʻole paha .. he mea ʻē aʻe ia i loko o kā mākou bölündügü ka nui o kā mākou lili ponoʻī i ka neʻe lehulehu, kahi o nā pilikia nui e pono ai asmamiz .. e like me ka liʻiliʻi ma aneʻi e noʻonoʻo ai ʻoe i ko Turkey a me ko ka lāhui makemake i ka lobbying bi search pono i loko, akā. inā hana ʻia kahi noiʻi i kēia lā. E komo anei ʻo Turkey i loko o ka ʻuniona Europa .. ʻaʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke komo i ke ʻaoʻao o ka cog o Turkey ma ʻEulopa e hoʻohana ai i nā koho.
- 15 ʻOkakopa 2011: 12:15
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e haʻi iaʻu e pane

- Ua aneane 3500 mau lā o ka ʻinikua ma TR a me ka lawelawe pūʻali koa! Nalo kēia mau mea i koʻu lilo ʻana i kamaʻāina Kelemania. Akā ua hoʻohui ʻia kaʻu hana ma Kelemania i koʻu makemake e haʻalele i TR. Ua kūpono loa ka makahiki hoʻomaha ma TR. ʻOiai wau i mai la, o ka awelika ola expectancy ma Germany he 77% no na kane, 82% no na wahine, a me 60% no na wahine ma TR. He hovers a puni 65-80%. mai manaʻoʻiʻo e ʻike wau i ka 90-XNUMX% ...
-Ke lilo ke kānāwai kupa ʻelua no mākou Turks (18-23 i kēia manawa) e like me ka pili ʻana i nā kamaʻāina o nā ʻāina ʻē aʻe o EU, a laila e lilo wau i kamaʻāina. Inā pono, e kali au no 10 mau hola ma ka palena ʻo Bulgaria. 'a'ole e hala ma muli o ko'u 'ano Tureke... 'A'ohe palena o ka noho maka'āinana. 'A'ole hiki ke ana 'ia he 10 makahiki me 15 makahiki, 'o ia nō. he kamaʻāina ʻelua ʻo ia, he manaʻo maikaʻi ʻole ʻo ia i ka pili ʻana i ke kamaʻāina pālua, akā ʻai ʻo ia i ka ʻaila o ia mea...
–E like me kāu i ʻōlelo ai, ʻaʻole au he hoahele a ʻaʻole hoʻi he mea hao.
-ʻO ka mea maikaʻi loa a mākou e hana ai, ʻaʻole hiki iā mākou ke hoʻopau i kekahi mea e like me kā mākou i hoʻomaka ai! He nui kā mākou papahana akā ʻaʻohe hopena. ʻO ia ke kumu i lōʻihi loa ai ka manaʻo o ka lobbying. Eia ʻoe, ua hoʻokumu ʻia ka Party Turkish ma Bremen i hala. makahiki, ua neʻe ʻo ia i ka CDU i ka mahina i hala, kona luna hoʻomalu a me kona hope ... ʻO wai ka politika a mākou e kamaʻilio nei ...
-ʻAʻohe hewa i kekahi, akā i ka wā e loaʻa ai nā pilikia o kēia poʻe Kurdish i waena o mākou, ʻaʻole e pau kā mākou hakakā (akā, aia kekahi poʻe hiki ʻole ke ʻōpū e noho ma lalo o ka hae hoʻokahi... Eia naʻe, he kumuhana kūkākūkā ʻē aʻe kēia, e ʻoluʻolu e hana. ʻaʻole ʻōlelo e pili ana i kēia pilikia, i ʻole e huikau ka pilikia.
-Ufuk, ua noho au ma Alanya no 15-16 mau makahiki. ʻO koʻu hoa noho ʻākau ma ka hale hale ʻo Kelemania, no ka laʻana. ʻO ia ke kumu aʻu e ʻōlelo ai no ka mea ke lilo au i 50, e holo pū wau :-) ʻOiaʻiʻo , e hookaa mua au i ka aie o ka hale a'u i kuai ai.